Zadie Smith and Dev Hynes Grapple With the Eternal “Why”

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Zadie Smith and Dev Hynes Grapple With the Eternal “Why”
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For our Fall 2023 issue, Zadie Smith chats to Dev Hynes about her new novel 'The Fraud,' cultural revolutions, and the limits of creativity.

. Smith is one of our few living novelists who doesn’t need a stream of adjectives or a list of accomplishments to remind a reader of their worth. She’s simply one of the most brilliant and dynamic minds at work in our messy, highly confused and confusing present. Her new novel,, set in Victorian-era London, involves the spinster cousin of a popular writer who becomes increasingly obsessed with the trial of a man claiming to be the long lost inheritor of an aristocratic estate.

, I went in and there was a girl at Pret with the name tag “Fatou,” who looked to me exactly how Fatou would look. I was completely dumbstruck. I handed over my money, took the sandwich, and didn’t say a word to her, but I was inwardly praying that she wasn’t going to say, “Oh my god, are you Tracee?” It’s lovely when things like that happen. You always have a magical sense that you put something into the universe.

HYNES: There’s a grand societal shame around that. It’s almost like this duality where people want artists to change and grow, but also want them to stay the same.

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