In Wondery’s new podcast ‘The Shrink Next Door,’ veteran journalist Joe Nocera tries to find out what happens when a doctor-patient relationship turns into something much darker
begins in 2010, when Nocera and his wife Dawn purchased a home in the Hamptons. Shortly thereafter, a man who appears to be their neighbor’s gardner invites them to a party next door, hosted by the man they thought was the owner of the property, a psychiatrist named Isaac “Ike” Herschkopf.During their visit, the doctor was aggressively self-promotional, to the extent that he had a wall with hundreds of photos of him with celebrities like Gwyneth Paltrow, Brooke Shields and O.J. Simpson.
“A few weeks later, Marty came by with his sister Phyllis. The first words out of his mouth [were]: ‘This is my sister Phyllis. I haven’t seen her in 27 years,’” Nocera tells. “At that point, I thought that this was something I wanted to know more about. Then, as Marty started showing me all the documents and photos he had [of his time working with Herschkopf], that’s when I knew it was a story I wanted to tell.
But you can’t make a podcast solely from a great story — you also have to have characters who are willing to participate. Herschkopf declined a recorded audio interview, but he did communicate with Nocera via emails which were read by an actor on the podcast. According to Marshall Lewy, chief content officer at Wondery, getting access to people like Markowitz, Phyllis and three of Herschkopf’s other former patients was a credit to Nocera’s ability to connect and relate with people.
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