The second day of Jan. 6 hearings focused heavily on the numbers of the 2020 election.
. For the most part, the numbers don’t lie. But if something doesn’t add up with the numbers, you go to court to get a resolution and that’s the end of the line. We accept those results. That’s what it means to respect the rule of law. … [But] Donald Trump didn’t.”
In his later testimony, Republican election lawyer Ben Ginsberg also asserted the “2020 election was not close,” adding, “The most narrow margin was 10,000 and something in Arizona and you just don’t make up those sorts of numbers in recounts.”In a pre-recorded interview with the committee, Bill Stepien—who joined the Trump campaign as manager 115 days before the 2020 election—talked about his experience with the former president and his close confidants.
Toward the end of the week of the election, Stepien said he told the then-president that the “chances for success” were 5% to 10%, based on recounts. “5 to 10% is not a very good, optimistic outlook,” Stepien recalled, noting the situation was “very, very, very bleak.” Stepien said Alex Cannon , a former Trump campaign lawyer, was tasked with investigating these claims and what he found was that these were American citizens voting overseas, not illegal citizens. “The reality of that was not illegal citizens voting in the election; I think it was like overseas voters voting in the election, so obviously people who were eligible to vote,” Stepien said.
He specifically cited a claim about the voting machine “error rate” in Michigan. “I went into, for instance, this thing from Michigan—this report about a 68% error rate. The reality is it was only .0063%.” Though Donoghue said the president accepted that, he added that Trump “would move to another allegation.
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