Guest: Tim Ryan, JD Vance, Haley BeMiller, Nick Evans, Brit Hume
MACCALLUM: All right, guys. Let him speak. Let him speak.RYAN: And I work -- I'm happy to have this conversation. I'm not afraid to have this conversation. These are the conversations we need to have this in this country. I welcome you guys. Let's just be respectful. But I'm not afraid to stand here and defend my position.
So we need more Border Patrol. I have voted to support a barrier in certain places. The problem with the wall is that El Chapo can dig under it. And people could put ladders up and climb over it. Is it a piece of it? Yes. I started what's called the Border Security Technology Caucus. We need to marshal all of the technology that we have in this country and apply it to the border so that we can keep this junk out.
RYAN: So we need enough agents -- we need enough agents to be able to go after these billionaires who are avoiding taxes at all cost. There is a protection in there that nobody under 400,000 is even going to get touched. I would never vote to increase taxes, which is another line in this campaign, on working class people. I come from working class people. I represent working class people. I don't want them paying any more in taxes. I've been calling for a tax cut.
So one of the reasons why we have this terrible inflation is because the Biden administration, backed by Tim, supported a lot of borrowing and spending, throwing fuel on the fire which has caused the price of everything to go up. VANCE: It brings down costs -- brings down costs for families. And look, you know, we're the greatest country in the world. You should not be able to -- you should not be unable to afford insulin in the greatest country in the world because you can't afford it. That's got to change, and I think we are making good progress there.
VANCE: That -- that will cause a reduction in prices pretty immediately. And again, if you stop borrowing, if you stop the spending, you will actually reduce price pressures on the overall economy. That's a big thing that will lead to immediate relief as well. KIDD: What's your stance on immigration and how can we help solve the employment issue in the United States?VANCE: Great. Well, great question. And first of all, I've come out in favor of -- we're talking about legal immigration here. I have come out in favor of Tom Cotton's the RAISE Act. He's a senator from Arkansas. And here's what the RAISE Act would do. So step back a little bit.
MACCALLUM: You know, we talked a lot about inflation, about the economy as being the number one and two issues really in this election. How many of you believe that the border is secure in this group?BAIER: I don't think --VANCE: A couple. VANCE: Now, fair, OK, maybe Joe Biden doesn't want to do some of this stuff. But I actually think there is a good chance because, look, the country is not going in the right direction. I think probably 65 percent of people in the state of Ohio would say that Joe Biden's policies are not working for the state of Ohio.
Why shut it down? Because it's very expensive. And I'm about to enter a world of public service where I'm going to have to take a big pay cut. It's a worthwhile pay cut because I want to do good for the people in this room and we got to accomplish a lot of good things. But that also means I can't continue to fund the nonprofit by itself, I can't continue to focus on it. And so that's why we decided to wind it down.VANCE: Gahanna.BAIER: I'm sorry.
I think -- again, I think Ohio is in a great place. But I think some other states could do a lot of work here. One is why don't we have universal voter I.D.? If you are going to vote, you ought to be able to present a voter I.D.
Number one, a number of state courts, including lower courts in the state of Pennsylvania have found they didn't conduct their election in accordance with their own state constitution, in accordance with their own state laws. That's not me making it up. That's actually what these lower courts have held.
I think it's preposterous, I think it's disgusting, and I think it's all -- something that all of us should condemn. What I've also said is that I think the effort to turn this into a political issue actually is a real problem here. Because Paul Pelosi was attacked -- And I think that that's a good idea. We should not in this country be aborting babies who can feel pain, who are fully formed.BAIER: I'm going to go to Allan.
And one of the things that I hope to bring to the Senate -- look, I'm a conservative, I'm pro-life, I think the inflation crisis is terrible and Joe Biden and Tim Ryan's policies have caused it. I also think that I can listen to people and have a conversation with people and that's unfortunately something we do way too little of in this country. Hopefully, I can make that better.BAIER: We're not going to say your town, Joe. Just not going to say it. Go ahead.
I think, obviously, a lot of our public school teachers could use better pay. They could use more resources. I have talked to a lot of public school teachers in the last couple of years who've talked about just how miserable the job is when you have federal mandates that have nothing to do with reading, writing and arithmetic but have to do with really ridiculous --
But we need to accept that we made a lot of mistakes that made kids' lives more miserable. It made teachers' lives more miserable. And I hope that we can learn and go forward and not repeat those mistakes in the future. I think one of the worries that I have with a lot of the jobs that exist in our society today, because we did ship a lot of our manufacturing base off to China, is that people don't see a pathway in their jobs, right? You shouldn't just have a career pathway if you went to college.
If we do that, then I think we can have a very, very healthy working class in this country and that's what we want, because if you don't have healthy workers, you're never going to have great American success stories. Whether you're Republican, whether you're a Democrat, whether you're an independent, nobody is going to own my vote card. Nobody is going to own how I actually represent the people of Ohio. That's the thing that I intend to keep in mind.
Haley BeMiller of"USA Today Network", the Ohio bureau of political reporter, and Nic Evans, reporter with"The Ohio Capitol Journal".HUME: Good exchange. Both men conducted themselves effectively. Very competent candidates, both of them. We are so polarized, however, Martha, that may help overcome the advantage Republicans enjoy in terms of the circumstances --Haley, your thoughts tonight as this town hall and what came out of it?
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