'If you’re anything like me, you get a feeling in your stomach that propels you forward into new and dangerous territories.'
and the young dancer Maddie Ziegler, who starred in the music videos for both “Elastic Heart” and “Chandelier,” Sia has created a visual accompaniment for her music on stage and screen that confronts our utter devotion to the avatar-industrial complex. Is it a gimmick? “For sure,” she says, but it is also an attempt to retain some sense of normalcy in her life.
SIA: I was like, “Great, the Grammys are coming up. Do you want to do it?” First, it was just, “Well, would you want to just do dancing? Or would you want to accept an award if I were to win?” And you were like, “Dancing all the way.” So I wanted to find a big enough and cool enough thing for you to do.
WIIG: Well, I have been very open about my obsession with Olivia Newton-John. In fact, her people invited me. And I was like, “Oh my gosh.” So I took my best friend and it was amazing. WIIG: Well, you’re so good at it. The Grammy thing, you directed every little thing: costumes, set, camera, everything. It was amazing to watch.
SIA: Certainly with singing or songwriting, I feel quite confident that I’m skilled at my craft, that I’ve honed the skills I was given. So I could probably use humbling in that department. But when it comes to the visual side of things, which I’m dipping my toe in, I’m definitely appreciative for any fucking glimmer of validation that I’m actually doing it and that I’m doing it right.SIA: Yeah, I’m excited about that. I’m on page 65 now of the screenplay. I wrote a short story eight years ago.
SIA: I’ll just go into a session to write a song. Someone will play me tracks and I’ll sing over the tracks the first time I’m hearing it. I record myself singing. And so if I’m with a new producer, they might play me three to ten tracks and I’m singing over them each time, fully formed pop tracks. I don’t do sessions for myself ever. I’m always working, writing for pop sessions. And what happens is that sometimes I like a song so much I keep it for myself.SIA: Some of them.
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