Nina Totenberg looks back on her decades-long friendship with Ruth Bader Ginsburg

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Nina Totenberg and Ruth Bader Ginsburg became friends after meeting in the '70s — but work boundaries were sometimes tricky: 'I said, 'You can ream me out in the interview if you want.' And she did,' Totenberg remembers.

She represented a woman named Susan Struck, who was a captain in the Air Force and who got pregnant. And under the rules in the military, as they then existed, she either had to have an abortion or be discharged, and she wanted to stay in the military, and she arranged to have the child adopted by people she knew. This is sort of the flip side of the coin.

was in a state about it because he worried that because it had gone on so long and because she had other challenges, that she would never get rid of it entirely. And that's what happened. The blisters went away, but the pain did not. And my husband and her doctor tried everything they could think of to relieve the pain. And the only thing that worked was a lidocaine patch, which you can't have on for more than 12 hours a day.

The Court has ruled that if you're a pharmacist or providing a public service, you can't discriminate against people based on what they want to have that's legal, but I'm not sure that that will endure with this Court. I don't know whether it's likely, but it's possible — or it's possible that individuals will simply refuse to fill prescriptions and make it inaccessible that way.

Amy Salit and Thea Chaloner produced and edited the audio of this interview. Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Beth Novey adapted it for the web.

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