“Every time I recorded an album, I was writing my memoirs,” says PhizLair in her new memoir, Horror Stories.
I can understand where your editor was coming from. In a lot of ways, you foreshadowed much of the discourse about power dynamics that are part of the Me Too dialogue. Do you feel like you were ahead of the curve?
There was obviously feminism way before me. My mother was a very strong woman, and Oberlin took the blinders off my eyes, and in many ways, it let me see how the world really works. But, to a certain extent, I did do my part to show that you could be a good girl and have bad thoughts. It feels like I was speaking a language that only one or two people spoke long ago, and now I live in a world where lots of people speak that language.
I want to talk about Oberlin. You write in your book about how you weren’t always comfortable with the way that political discourse played out there. Was it the extreme liberalism or the uniformity of thought that irked you? I came from a very conservative high school with very traditional values. And then I went to Oberlin, which is the polar opposite: very progressive, freeform, individualistic. And at first, I wanted to join everything. I did sit-ins against apartheid and joined all the marches. But then I got this real sense that there was a social aspect to it that wasn’t accomplishing much. It was just marching around Oberlin, Ohio.
It’s not really fair because I’m a direct beneficiary of all that progressive thinking, and it’s all over my music. Oberlin built me as a musician. But one time, I saw a bunch of people on the dean’s lawn, and I asked them, “What are you guys protesting?” And the main guy looked at me, and he was like, “Injustice.” Perfect. We need less of that.
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