On this 'Face the Nation' broadcast, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy and New York Gov. Kathy Hochul join Margaret Brennan.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I'm Margaret Brennan in Washington.
What's included in the bill? Sixteen billion in disaster relief. That type of funding will help with once-unthinkable scenes like the New York flooding. The state's governor, Kathy Hochul, will join us. So be it. Bring it on. Let's get over with it and let's start governing. If he's upset because he tried to push us in a shutdown, and I made sure government didn't shut down, then let's have that fight.Has Hakeem Jeffries, the Democratic leader, said that he will…REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MCCARTHY: He hasn't said anything about what he's going to do.
REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MCCARTHY: I was confident I could get something on the floor to make sure the option that we would not.MARGARET BRENNAN: … sure it was going to pass. REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MCCARTHY: Well, it all comes down to the Senate. The Senate hasn't done one thing.REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MCCARTHY: No, because the House is doing their work.
Do you know the governor of Massachusetts has declared a state of emergency? This is one of the number one crisis…REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MCCARTHY: … as far from the border as you can see. This is killing Americans every single day.But let me ask you about Ukraine.MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, there wasn't.REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MCCARTHY: Let's – let's educate the viewers why there wasn't, because, the day before, there was.REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MCCARTHY: … denied that and voted no.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But you haven't figured out yet the vehicle through which to move that Ukraine aid or a date by which to do it, or border? So what I am saying is, when you saw government funding, there is a need for Ukraine. I support being able to provide the weapons to Ukraine.MARGARET BRENNAN: OK, so you're not sequencing the bills, or was – weren't meaning to suggest that in your comments earlier?MARGARET BRENNAN: Right? OK. Wanted to make sure I understood that.
This president has been in elected office for 50 years. Do you know he has spent more dinners with Hunter Biden's business associates than he has visiting the border?REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MCCARTHY: Yes, don't you think that's important, then? One time in 50 years.REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MCCARTHY: Do you know how many people will die today from fentanyl coming across our border?REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MCCARTHY: It's the equivalent of an airliner crashing every single day in America.
We need to reassess how we reimburse states and homeowners after these cataclysmic weather events. And so we're doing the assessment right now. That'll take place over the next couple of weeks. And it's tone-deaf to what states like New York and many others are going through in this new area – era of climate change, where the unknown is becoming the norm here.NASA had a report out a few days ago saying parts of New York City are sinking from both human and natural factors. And that can impact flooding risk. So, if that's true, you have to rebuild a whole lot of infrastructure. And taxpayers did pump in billions to that national effort.
I want to ask you as well about the other crisis you've been raising alarms about, and that is the strain due to migrants. There were no border provisions in this congressional bill that just passed. And I know you've said you've had to manage without help from Washington.
I listened to Kevin closely. There will come out of the Senate soon a bill that will have three legs to it, disaster funding – we need more, not less – robust funding for Ukraine to get them through the next fighting season, not $24 billion, and a major effort to secure our border. SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: I have been around a while. I'm wearing a pin. Do you think I would leave Ukraine hanging?
I think Kevin is the right guy at the right time. The only way he loses his job is if a handful of Republicans join up with the Democratic Party to fire him. That would be a disaster for the future of the Republican Party.SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: That's not going to happen. Kevin has the overwhelming confidence of his membership.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: I'm going to help secure our border and keep the fight going in Ukraine to make sure that Putin doesn't get away with this. To the Republicans who say Ukraine doesn't matter to us, you're wrong. Respectfully, you're wrong. The war gets bigger, not smaller. There goes Taiwan. If Ukraine can beat Russia, China's less likely to invade Taiwan, and Putin gets stopped.SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: I will be back.And we're going to talk about the legacy as well of Senator Dianne Feinstein on the other side of that break.
Feinstein became the first female mayor of the city following the assassination of two of her colleagues.MARGARET BRENNAN: She never forget that experience and championed gun laws, including the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban when she reached the Senate.UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm aware of that.MARGARET BRENNAN: Though it expired ten years later, her passionate campaign continued.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You know, there is also that image of her embracing you after that very contentious hearing.And she was criticized from within her own party for praising how you conducted yourself.SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Well, that says more about the current state of affairs than Dianne. Dianne was saying nice things. We had like a five- second hug. And – because she wanted to say something nice about me they thought she had to be off the committee.
Look, on your question with regard to what our allies see, Vladimir Putin sits in Russia today and he looks across the landscape and he sees the United States of America, which is unwilling to spend what it needs to on defense. It is now pulling back spending for Ukraine. We've seen successive Republican votes where more and more Republicans vote against funding for Ukraine. He sees coups in Africa. They're pushing western militaries out.
MARK ESPER: Well, I suspect that he will do what he says, and that is he will come to office. He will somehow attempt to negotiate a deal between Russia and Ukraine, and that won't fly. There's only one person that can get – end this conflict in Ukraine, and that's Vladimir Putin. And he's not about to do that any time soon.
I - look, I think there are - that said, I think there are a few Republicans in the debates right now who I could support, who are better certainly than Trump, and who could beat President Biden. And I think for Republicans, we've got to quickly find that person, rally around them and then bring the party together and run a strong candidate.MARK ESPER: Look, I think we've seen some good performances from Chris Christie, Nikki Haley, DeSantis, Tim Scott.
MARGARET BRENNAN: There are a number of stalled military promotions in the Senate, you know, talking about problems with democracy right now.
REPRESENTATIVE JOSH GOTTHEIMER, : That's not going anywhere. I mean but I – but I think to Brian's point we have to address both. And I think it's a false choice to say we want to do one or the other. But clearly we know that we've - we can make it the next 45 days to support Ukraine and make sure we stand up to Putin and to China and Iran, which is critical to our national security and to our allies.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You also heard today the call, a motion to vacate, to oust Speaker McCarthy from leadership. He says he can survive. Can he? REPRESENTATIVE BRIAN FITZPATRICK: Yes. And that may require a change in the rules package. I mean this cannot be the trajectory for the remainder of the Congress.REPRESENTATIVE BRIAN FITZPATRICK: Correct. I mean that was so, keep in mind, that -
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, can you say we won't be back in the same place November 17th talking about a possible government shutdown? REPRESENTATIVE BRIAN FITZPATRICK: We cannot be constantly on the – on the - on the 11th hour brinkmanship.MARGARET BRENNAN: It's not even the debt ceiling. The FAA wasn't going to be authorized.REPRESENTATIVE BRIAN FITZPATRICK: Right.MARGARET BRENNAN: You haven't passed into law a defense bill.REPRESENTATIVE JOSH GOTTHEIMER: But the extremists, you saw how we got there.
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