Exclusive: Witness Claims Trump's Chief of Staff Was on Phone Call Planning Jan. 6 March on Capitol

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Exclusive: Witness Claims Trump's Chief of Staff Was on Phone Call Planning Jan. 6 March on Capitol
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Trump's chief of staff, Mark Meadows, wrote in his book that the Jan. 6 violence was the result of “the actions of a handful of fanatics across town.” But a source tells Rolling Stone that Meadows helped plan the march on the Capitol.

among the rally organizers — including Johnston — in which the organizers’ said they were “following [Trump’s] lead” in planning the Ellipse rally.

Rolling Stone cannot independently verify Johnston’s claim about the December phone conversation. He says he’s unaware of any recording of the call. The only other person Johnston believes may have overheard it is another Ellipse rally planner, Matt McCleskey. Johnston says McCleskey was also in the car when Kylie Kremer spoke about the march with Meadows and Pierson.

From left: Katrina Pierson, Senior Advisor to Donald J. Trump for President,speaks Wednesday, Jan. 6, 2021, in Washington D.C., White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows walks along the South Lawn if thee White House on October 30, 2020 in Washington, DC.The committee has subpoenaed Meadows, Pierson, and Kremer. In a letter that accompanied those subpoenas, Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson indicated his interest in communications.

With multiple investigations into January 6, cooperating witnesses can have a variety of motivations for coming forward. Some may hope to avoid legal trouble while others could be eager to shape the public narrative or settle scores. Ultimately, Johnston said his relationship with the Kremers soured, in part, because he came to view them as “total grifters.” Johnston claimed he told investigators that the Kremers used donated funds for personal expenses.

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