'People try to make art fit around them, but you’re supposed to bend yourself to the art.' - EarlSweatshirt
, Flying Lotus, and countless other icons of hip-hop’s new vanguard. A wunderkind by all accounts, Kgositsile, now a father himself, has a lot to celebrate—and process. To help him break down the significance of another trip around the sun, Kgositsile called up the National Book Award-winning author Ta-Nehisi Coates for a conversation about young fatherhood, aging as a Black man in America, and the bitter taste of good art.COATES: Where are you at right now?: Yes, I absolutely did.
KGOSITSILE: It’s the craziest shit ever. I’m on tour right now, and I’ll be talking shit like I did before he was born, like, “Let’s go to Jamaica this weekend!” But bro, I’m not doin’ any of that shit.KGOSITSILE: Right, suddenly I’m like, “There is a whole-ass man over there waiting on me, and for the rest of my life I have to worry about him!” Oh my god.
KGOSITSILE: It’s like coffee. The first time I tried coffee I said, “Get this the fuck outta here.” But you get older, and you need it. COATES: I think sometimes art is waiting for you. You didn’t need it at eight, but you can have your own fully formed relationship with it now. KGOSITSILE: I was already knowin’, man! Billy Woods met my father in Tanzania when he was 11. We’re gonna talk about this later, but our shit is six degrees for real.
COATES: It was only when I turned 25 that I understood how young Tupac and Biggie really were when they died, and how terrible it is.
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