‘Better Call Saul’ Co-Creator Peter Gould Breaks Down the Surprising Series Finale and Jimmy and Kim’s Ending

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BetterCallSaul co-creator Peter Gould talks about the series finale: 'An interesting thing about the show is that sometimes the worst things that people do aren’t crimes.'

In the end, Jimmy McGill unbroke bad. Just when it looked like Saul Goodman had finessed his way into a sweet plea agreement — just seven years at the most country club-like of correctional facilities — he reversed course and confessed all, in Monday night’s series finale of AMC’s “Better Call Saul.”

What did it take for Saul, who seemed to lack remorse after being caught, to suddenly turn back into Jimmy? Take me through the decision to have him reverse course after he hears what Kim has done . An interesting thing about the show is that sometimes the worst things that people do aren’t crimes. Certainly, Chuck’s worst actions aren’t actually crimes. And maybe in that case, one of Jimmy’s many bad actions is not technically a crime.

In his mind, he’s taken the mask of Saul Goodman off. But the world is always going to see that. He’s a little bit like an actor who gets so identified with a role that people assume that it’s the real guy. And that’s something he’s going to have to live with. And maybe that’s part of his ultimate punishment. But then when he sees Kim, she calls him “Jimmy.” And that really gets to him.

In the world of “Breaking Bad”/”Better Call Saul,” this is kind of a happy ending. What do you think? “The Time Machine” book, we’ve seen earlier in the season a couple of times. We actually saw it in a teaser for the season. It’s in Saul Goodman’s house when it’s being cleaned out by the authorities. It’s also in Jimmy and Kim’s apartment, on Jimmy’s bedside table. He’s currently reading it. And then at the end of this episode, Chuck has it. And all you can think is that somehow that copy of “The Time Machine” made its way from Chuck to Jimmy.

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